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Wolf Recovery Program Meetings Conclude and Exclude the Truth

Posted in Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Management Gone Wild, Wolf Award on December 16th, 2007 by Wild

Fish and Wildlife Services continues their one sided management where they will not allow the Catron County Wolf Investigator into a meeting but they do let Defenders of Wildlife in to put out their information.    These tax payer funded salaried employees did not want the truth and the picture display of all the pets, horses and other live stock killed by these wolves being shown to the people that will soon be having newly bred, cage raised and habituated wolves in their yards.  They are working only to protect their jobs.  Because if the new people soon to be affected knew the truth the program would be ended. 

Wolves have constantly been showing up in peoples yards allover and yet little or nothing has been done.  They want the new communities affected to think they are doing something and following the rules when they pick up an uncollared wolf and then just toss it back out into the community to eat their horses, cattle, pets and even endanger your children.  These monkey managers will then show up and say oh you should not live here.

The Silver City Daily Press did a great job bringing out the truth and exclusive methods that US Fish and Wildlife Service is using on the Wolf Program.
Wolf Recovery Program Meetings Conclude

Silver City Daily Press - Orginal Story 

Scoping meetings on the Mexican Gray Wolf Recovery Program have been concluded, but written com­ments may be submitted through Dec. 31.
At a recent meeting in Glenwood, Catron County wolf investigator Jess Carey was denied entrance with a display of pets and animals torn apart and eaten by wolves, according to Catron County Manager Bill Aymar.
“He probably could have gone in, but they wouldn’t let him bring the display,’ Aymar said. “It’s about 10 to 15 feet long, has photos and data about wolf depredations.’
Aymar said he thinks the meetings “aren’t about getting unbiased infor­mation.’
“It’s not about a dialogue; it’s checking off the boxes that meet­ings were held and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife will go ahead with what it planned in the first place,’ Aymar said. “There are wolves out there that we have no problem with. They stay away from humans. A sighting should be special, not something that you have to go to a rancher’s cattle pen to see.’
Calls to John Slown of the Wolf Recovery Program have not been returned.
Comments on the program may be sent to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, addressed to John Slown, New Mexico Ecological Services Field Office, 2105 Osuna NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113.
Written comments may also be faxed to (505) 346-2542 or e-mailed to R2FWE_AL@fws.gov.
One’s name and address must be included with each comment.
The information that was presented at the scoping meetings may be viewed at www.mexicanwolfeis.org.> Questions regarding the scoping process or development of a proposed rule amending the 1998 10(j) Final Rule should be directed to Slown at (505) 761-4782, according to the Wolf Recovery Program Web site.

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Wolf Stalks Kids at School Play Yard

Posted in Wolf Warnings, Wolf Politics, EnvironMental, Most Popular, Endangered Species Act (ESA), Management Gone Wild, Property Rights on December 2nd, 2007 by Wild

School on lockdown due to wolf stalking children

Friday, November 30, 2007 children at the Glenwood school in New Mexico had a wolf stalking children at their play ground.  The uncollared wolf appeared and was about 17 yards from the playground.  The school was quickly locked down.

The county wolf investigator was called out to cast tracks and look for other wolf evidence.

In 2005 the school in Blue Arizona was also stalked by the Aspen wolves who were later relocated to New Mexico and have been involved in various attacks and kills including slaughtering a little girls horse.

Is this what the wolf lovers were looking for when they support wolf recovery?

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Habituated Mexican Grey Wolves Threaten Hikers and Hunters - Luna Wolf pack at it again

Posted in Wolf Warnings, Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Endangered Species Act (ESA), Ecology, Animal Stories, Management Gone Wild on November 30th, 2007 by Wild

Another posting from WolfCrossing.org showing how dangerious these habituated Mexican gray wolves are.  The environMental extreme claim the wolves are not dangerous and will run away.   Another unsafe wolf encounter.  When will the public be told the truth instead of the Disney G rated version of wolves.  Wolves are dangerous predators.  Habituated wolves are even more dangerous.  

This is the same Luna wolf pack noted for encircling a boy a little less than a year ago.

On Monday night November 5th at 10:00 PM our deer hunting camp on the West Fork of the Gila River, was terrorized by a pack of wolves estimated to be 4 to 6 in number. They came right into our camp howling right between our hunters tent and the cook tent and then just on the other side of the guide’s tent. We had our horses and mules high lined at the camp and when we started hearing the wolves growl right next to the horses, we got up and tried to run them out. We walked down to the end of the highlines, with several thousands of dollars worth of horse and mule fllesh tied up and it probably looked like a smorgage board or shish kabob to the wolves, and it became quiet for a little while. We went back to the tent, and then the wolves moved back in and started howling again.

My son Brian went back down to protect the animals by getting between them and the wolves, and then the wolves really set up a racket of a combination of howling, yap barking, growling and snapping their teeth. They were really intimidated by him being there. It sounded like 4 to 6 wolves and my son held his ground in the pitch black of night and had to stay there for probably 30 minutes before he was satisfied they had maybe left. Needless to say we didn’t get much sleep the rest of the night. Brian said it litterally scared the hell out of him!

Our three hunters from the San Antonio, TX area were really scared, so much so they stayed real quiet through the whole ordeal in fear that the wolves might hear them and come to their tent, which is where the first howls came from. They literally can not believe what the Government is doing to the people here by putting the wolves back. The old timers got rid of them for good reason.
Over the last several years we have had wolves howling out side of our camp but never had them come right through camp and absolutely have no fear of humans or human scent. They acted very aggressive and especially so when my son confronted them the last time. They really became excited. These wolves are absolutely a danger to humans and livestock as they seemed to not even care about human scent like most wild animals.

 

We think Nick Smith used to camp where we were camped, when he was packing elk meat and dog food in a few years ago to feed the wolves. We had heard the wolfer airplane circling in the TurkeyFeather Mountain area earlier that day and the tracks confirmed they had come up out of Cooper Canyon and Iron Creek on the trail and over Turkey Feather Pass and down to the West Fork of the Gila and returned out the same way. There were wolf tracks on the trail for about 5 miles.

When we came out yesterday on Thursday November 8th, we met a group of male back packers who were camped on the confluence of Cooper Canyon and Iron Creek and they related a story to my hunters who were on the back of our packstring, and I didn’t get to talk to, as I had passed by them, or I would have gotten a name and info from them. They said that on Wednesday evening that they were above camp gathering firewood when they noticed movement and the saw the wolves and evidently the wolves made a move toward them and they ran back to camp and one of them climbed up in a tree and waited until the wolves left. They were terrified!

full posting from WolfCrossing.org

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New Mexico Game and Fish Director Bruce Thompson Adds Poacher to His Resume

Posted in Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Apathetic Press (AP), Management Gone Wild, Property Rights on November 24th, 2007 by Wild

Poaching on private land but claming his GPS gave him faulty information.  Yeah Right.  I wonder if that excuse works for other hunters. 

Oh and that is alleged poacher and Director of New Mexico Game and Fish Bruce Thompson. There is no mention of this investigation on the NM Game and Fish website.

Bruce Thompson Director of NM Game and FishNot to worry he will be investigated by his own employees at New Mexico Game and Fish and no doubt will not suffer any fines for poaching or jail time as happens to the little hunters when they make a mistake. 

I am sure his employees when they clear him of wrong doing in this poaching investigation will no doubt be promoted or be transferred to better locations in New Mexico.  Maybe just a newer tax payer truck was the price tag.   Paybacks for the powerful and another government tax paid official showing his corrupt yellow underbelly.
 

I have to wonder about our governor Bill Richardson (presidential candidate) when his good buddy Bruce does things like this.  No doubt Bill Richardson will also apply pressure to get these charges dropped.
 

Time for a new Director of New Mexico Game and Fish.  There are some good employees out there who would no doubt do a much better job.

Game and Fish director probed for alleged violation of hunting rule
The Current-Argus
Article Launched: 11/22/2007 03:32:54 PM MST
SANTA FE — State Department of Game and Fish conservation officers are looking into whether the department’s director violated a state hunting rule.

Department spokesman Dan Williams said the alleged infraction involving Bruce Thompson happened this past hunting season in southeastern New Mexico. Thompson had a deer hunting permit for public land.

Thompson said he used the wrong GPS coordinate when planning a hunt, which led him on to private land. He said he immediately reported the incident to his staff and is cooperating with investigators.

‘’I made an honest mistake, and this situation concerns me because I pride myself on being a hunter who pays meticulous attention to the rules,'’ he said Wednesday.

Thompson said he doesn’t expect to be treated differently than any other hunter and ‘’will accept any pertinent consequences.'’

No charges have been filed against Thompson.

Orginal Story

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Wolves that Harassed Family for over Two Years MISSING! - Albuquerque Journal Reporter Panders to Extreme

Posted in Wolf Politics, EnvironMental, Most Popular, Apathetic Press (AP), Science Politics, Endangered Species Act (ESA) on November 22nd, 2007 by Wild

Durango wolf pack that had been harassing families and homes, has been lost by the government. A child even had to pack a gun to be in her yard due to these wolves.

The Mr. Parsons has made lots of money off the tax payer funded mongrel wolf program and he does not care that this wolf pack and the males previous mate had bit a person and was constantly harassing a family. Parsons wants large predator out in our area and dispersing to your area, he does not care if their is no natural or native prey for these predators.

Fish and Wildlife Service has also stated in meetings that all the mongrel Mexican Wolves we have hanging around our homes have genetic duplicates currently being cage raised to release elsewhere so the argument about important genetics even with the knowledge this man has of suspect dog breeding is nothing short of scandalous, misinformation and junk science.

There is even video of these wolves in another families front yard. These wolves were well known for causing trouble in the first time they were released before being picked up at tax payer expense and placed in wolfie dog spa for a year to roll the strikes off their record.

This biased reporter Rene Romo has also written very slanted articles in the past including leaving out information that children have been studied here and are having serious psychological issues due to the constant harassment by these wolves. Of course where was wolf lover Rene Romo or the Albuquerque Journal when the wolves were at the family’s home 28 times in 30 days. He could have gotten some great video like the family did. Any editor should be ashamed to miss such an news worthy event.

Then again how could the press keep the wolf wars going if they did not mislead and misrepresent the information. I guess it is better to slant the news and keep pandering to the environmental extreme then show people what the wolves are really doing.

 

Wolves Missing In Gila Forest By Rene Romo

LAS CRUCES— The suspicious disappearance of the three-member Durango wolf pack is the latest blow to the endangered Mexican gray wolf recovery program in southwestern New Mexico.

The pack, including two adults outfitted with radio collars that continue to transmit even if the wolf is dead, hasn’t been detected since early this month.
“We couldn’t find them,” said Elizabeth Slown, spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. “Now their fate is considered unknown. … It’s perplexing. You could see one collar malfunctioning, but this would have to be two collars malfunctioning.”
Advocates of the program say it is suspicious for several wolves to suddenly go undetected after weeks of searches.
The Catron County commission on Nov. 7 warned the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service that it planned to trap the Durango pack’s alpha male, known as AM973, which the county considered a “dangerous wolf” because it had repeatedly gone near a home on the Adobe Ranch in northern Catron County.
“I would say it (the pack’s disappearance) is both worrisome and unusual,” said Dave Parsons, a conservation biologist with the Albuquerque-based Rewilding Institute and the former Fish and Wildlife Service coordinator for the program.
Laura Schneberger, president of the Gila Livestock Growers Association, agreed the disappearance is suspicious but added, “None of us had anything to do with it.”
The association has been critical of the wolf reintroduction because of repeated livestock kills and concerns about human safety.
“Of course it’s suspicious,” Schneberger said. “That’s what happens when you have a bunch of wolves running around people’s houses and camps. They are going to get killed, because people can’t put up with them. … Is anyone surprised that the Durango pack has gone missing after they were allowed to become so habituated?”
The pack, including an adult male and female and an uncollared pup, was last seen Nov. 1 near the ranch house in the northeast section of the Gila National Forest.
The recovery program has tried to track the wolves in aerial and ground searches.

Read the Rest of the Story but not the full, accurate or real story by any stretch of the imagination

 

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New Mexico has a Superior Resolution to Alaska’s Solution to California’s Beaver Problems – Mexican Gray Wolves

Posted in Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Science Politics, Animal Stories, Management Gone Wild, Wolf Award on November 13th, 2007 by Wild

Release the Mongrel Mexican Gray Wolves

In a recent article by… the author suggests shipping some Alaskan wolves to California to help reduce the beaver problem in Martinez California.

Martinez, Calif., has a wildlife problem: Too many beavers, and nobody wants them killed. Well, almost nobody.
Alaska has a wildlife problem: Too many wolves, and nobody wants them killed. Well, almost nobody.
Is it possible these two problems could be brought together in one easy, perfectly natural solution?
Wolves love beavers.

OK, they don’t actually “love'’ beavers; they love to eat beavers.
And that could be a good thing in this case. Think of it as the perfectly natural way to deal with what the San Francisco Chronicle headlined as the “fate of popular beavers and their damned dam.'’
Bringing the wolves and the beavers together certainly has to beat the alternatives.

“The beaver dam, built right on a recently completed flood improvement project, has grown from three to six feet in height since last winter, putting the town in serious jeopardy of being inundated during winter rains,'’ the Chronicle’s Peter Fimrite reported earlier this month.

For a city to end up flooded by its own flood improvement project would not only be costly, it would be embarrassing. So Martinez has resolved something needs to be done.

“The (city) staff report, made public Friday, says the city should remove the dam and ‘humanely depredate the beavers,’ ‘’ Fimrite wrote. (read the full story)

I must praise this author for not only thinking environmentally but thinking about what is best for California. I grant Craig Medred my Wolf Award for excellence.

The author is right, after all after culling the beavers to only the strong (or that whole population of beavers as happened to snowshoe hair on Ellesmere Island) the wolves will set out on other prey no doubt culling a few radical environmentalists from the human herd. But no doubt the wolves will improve the breed of beavers so only the best live.

This author is on to a great idea that all the Californians that support the wolf program and dysfunctional hybrid Mexican gray wolf program with their donations, get to have a few wolves in their yards too. I think New Mexicans can improve on the Alaskan solution.

Your Alaskan wolves are not ready for the urban environment like our habituated Mexican gray wolves. Why because our half breed cage raised Mexican Mongrel Gray Wolves are much tamer and already have been hanging around human communites into an art form. They are even up on some of their shots…well not rabies but who is counting (those vaccines are bad right?).

So often the Mexican gray wolves even visit our yards leaving our dead and maimed pets or other little presents in our yards. I have heard at the Academy Awards the celebrities love getting gifts. So I am sure they would enjoy the presents that the mongrel Mexican Gray Wolves would leave them.

California celebrities would also be glad to hear about our new thinner elk and how they got there with a type of wasp waist. Might even be the new diet craze called Chronic Wasting Disease which is present now in our elk herds (spred by wolves and other predators) but those poking out hip bones look really sexy.

The habituated Mexican Gray Wolf will no doubt settle into the Martinez and other urban communities of Contra Costa County like they have here in our counties in New Mexico. These wolves are constantly around our homes so no doubt they will be much happier in an urban environment than the northern wolf.

These hybrid wolves also know how to den near homes so California kids will be able to share in the joys of watching the pups grown and slaughter their pets and livestock as is common here in New Mexico. No need to watch the biased wolf documentaries on National Geographic. Reduction of TV time for children another great benefit to these wolves.

Our wolves here are already well acquainted to the use of gunfire, rubber bullets and other hazing techniques so California will no doubt be a safe haven for them. Heck they can just hang out with the gang bangers and do a little tagging like they already do around our homes here. (I could link up the pictures of wolf poop on our porches but I will spare you)

Our wolves here are so tame they are even stalking (oops I mean following) school children home from school. While our Governor (and presidential candidate) Bill Richardson thinks it is wonderful and throws is support to wolf awareness week, I cannot wait to see what they will do in California. Maybe they will create a wolf holiday for the stalking wolf or change their state flag to the wolf.

Here the wolves also have not faired so well having to cross 100s of miles to find communities to use in gathering their food. In California with a much denser population, the mongrel Mexican Gray wolves should have an easier time in finding pets and other food to eat.

I am sure unlike people in New Mexico that understand fully that wolves stalking and encircling children is a prey testing for future attacks, in California they will think the wolves were just curious and wanted to be taken home and cuddled (the wolves were just misunderstood).

One family here has had a pack constantly eating their pets and livestock and has visited them over 27 times in 30 days. No doubt in California they will be charging admission. Then instead of Defenders of Wildlife posters of wolves looking cute on their walls they can see real wolves in action killing their pets. Then we can blame them for letting their pet out for a few seconds to go pee outside instead of on their livingroom rug. Here in New Mexico the blame game is all to popular by goverment officals.

Of course what would California be without lawyer suing when the wolves get aggressive and do what wolves historically do and environmental groups suing to protect the wolves, along with someone else suing to protect the beaver’s property rights to their dam.

With the expansion of the Wolf reintroduction boundaries of the Mexican Gray Wolf program…wolves will soon disperse to California so it is only a matter of time. Lets help them out and send them a few wolves now. I mean no disrespect but I am also not sure your Alaskan wolves can match the spiked up genetics of our Mexican gray wolves.

Donations for private plane transportation now being accepted. After all you cannot expect these expensive ($300,000+ tax dollers per wolf) wolves to fly coach. They must fly Al Gore style.

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Wolf Ad Slanted to Garner Support - Reporter Takes Aim at Wolf Ad

Posted in Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Science Politics on November 8th, 2007 by Wild

Finally a reporter gets it right.  With the recent campaign from environmental extreme groups have started running extremely misleading ads on the management of the wolf program.  These ads are just tugging at your heart strings with cuties Disneyesque pictures to make you feel bad that any of them might be shot.  No doubt the environmental extreme is also looking to pad their bank accounts and payrolls by end of year with your well intended donations.

This reporter, unlike other members of the aphetic press that have lost their logic and researching abilities, examines the ad campaign about the killing of excess wolves to determine what is truth and what is a misrepresentation of the facts.

Environmental Groups Don’t Want Gray Wolves Killed
CBS4 Gives Ad Campaign A Reality Check
(CBS4) DENVER There’s a new political ad from an environmental group that depicts helicopter gunners hunting down wolf puppies. It packs an emotional punch and is bound to get your attention.

Ad Begins

“If the Bush administration has its way, nearly 600 wolves could be gunned down in the northern Rockies.”

THIS IS TRUE

The claim is technically true, but it’s also misleading. It comes from the Natural Resources Defense Council and it opposes a plan by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to make it easier for states like Idaho, Montana and Wyoming to cull their wolf populations. The group also opposes a move to take the gray wolf off of the endangered species list in the northern Rockies.

Sources:

NRDC Action Fund: Bush Administration Takes Aim at Wolves

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Mountain-Prairie Region Endangered Species Programming the Northern Rocky Mountain Population (NRM) of Gray Wolf as a Distinct Population Segment and Removing this Distinct Population Segment from the Federal List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife

Gray Wolf

Gray Wolf Biology Questions and Answers

There is of course more to the story. When the federal government re-introduced wolves back in 1995, 1996 the goal was to build a stable population of at least 300 animals, and that mission has been accomplished. In fact, it’s gone so well, there’s now more than 1,200 gray wolves in the northern Rockies. Consequently Idaho, Wyoming and Montana want the federal government to back off, and the states want to manage their own wolf populations. The states say they need to cull wolves when they attack livestock or over-hunt the elk herds in certain areas.

How would the states do that? By shooting, trapping or issuing hunting permits.

So here’s the spin. The shrill sound of the ad ignores the fact that the states are required to preserve a sustainable wolf population. Meaning they’re here for good. The minimum requirements must preserve at least 100 wolves (10 breeding pairs) per state, but are likely to be managed at a higher level because the states’ fear falling below the threshold would invite federal oversight.

The ad also fails to mention that wolves inside the national parks like Yellowstone and Glacier remain fully protected.

Ad Continues:

“You can help stop the massacre. Go to www.stoptheguns.org

THE BOTTOM LINE

The bottom line is environmental groups believe the eco-system in the northern Rockies would benefit from more wolves, not less.

There’s lots of evidence to show wolves make for healthier game herds and support a number of diverse species, but states say they have a right to manage their wildlife problems as they see fit, and for now the federal government seems inclined to agree.

Orginal Story

What the environmental extreme does not want you to see if the videos we have of Mexican Gray Mongrel Wolves constantly in our yards.

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Kenton Carnegie’s Death by Wolves

Posted in Wolf Warnings, Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Science Politics, Wolf Award on November 3rd, 2007 by Wild

by Valerius Geist, PhD, P. Biol.

Posted from WolfCrossing.org

I am one of two scientists asked by Kenton Carnegie’s parents to investigate the matter of his death. My reports were submitted to the coroner as well as both parties to the case and are available to you upon request.

The jury at the coroner’s inquest has found that wolves killed Kenton Carnegie. It is gratifying that science and not politics carried the day. However, when the coroner decided to limit the number of expert witnesses that could testify on behalf of the Carnegies’ to one, and chose Mark McNay and his excellent report (to which I hope you have access), he also signaled that the inquest would stay away from policy issues. That is, the corner’s inquest would focus on the narrow question who killed Kenton Carnegie, to which the answer is “a wolf pack”.

The answer to the question what killed Kenton Carnegie is “the belief that wolves are not dangerous to humans”. Consequently, neither the jury nor the public were made aware of the fact that this belief has killed three persons in the recent past, and that it has a very long and most unsavory political history. Thus the attempt to whitewash wolves in the Kenton Carnegie tragedy by blaming bears is but one instance in a very long history of misrepresenting wolves. Moreover, this misrepresentation is not only historical, but ongoing, and involves scientists - so called and genuine - as well a agencies, governments, environmental organizations and in the past political parties. The recommendations of the jury, predictably, fall short of addressing matters of broader public concern. Please allow me to illustrate:

The Kenton Carnegie tragedy would very likely not have taken place in British Columbia because that province has in place laws that quickly eliminate habituating garbage wolves as well as wolves aggressive to humans - and Saskatchewan does not. The only exception is where wolves are protected de facto or de jure. I soon found out that this was a very touchy subject in Saskatchewan. So, shall we discuss this issue in detail or not?

The juries recommendation that garbage dumps be fenced is well meaning but innocent. Fences are ripped apart, dug under, climbed over by bears and wolves, while fallen trees and snowdrifts make fences useless. The pitfalls of fences have been minutely covered in debates and court cases about game ranching. Wolves are not only superlative escape artists but also break-in artists! Should the public not know?

Nobody in Saskatchewan had the expertise or had done the scholarly homework that showed that both, wolves and urban dwelling coyotes, target human victims in an identical manner. This is but one instance of scholarly and professional shortcoming. There are plenty more! Are scientists and professionals not accountable for their statements?

Moreover, such knowledge is absolutely essential in forewarning travelers or residents in wilderness areas about impending wolf confrontations or attacks. Is such of no interest to the public?

The public is being overwhelmed by statements that wolves are harmless, misunderstood creatures, not dangerous to humans. Such a message has come not only from North Americans and Europeans, from environmentalist and Russia’s communist party, from respectable scientists and romantic literati, while evidence to the contrary has been systematically suppressed, censored, belittled and misrepresented. It’s a sordid history, some of which is a systematic hoodwinking of the public. Is the public not entitled to know?

Wolves are virtually harmless under some conditions and exceedingly dangerous in others. Is the public not entitled to know?

The above is but a sample of the concerns not covered.

Valerius Geist, PhD, P. Biol.
Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science
The University of Calgary

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Jury Reviews Evidence and Determines Wolf Killed Young Ontario Man

Posted in Wolf Warnings, Most Popular, Science Politics, Leave Alone Policy, Animal Stories, Management Gone Wild on November 1st, 2007 by Wild

The self professed wolf expert, Dr. Paul Paquet, that strung this court along and the Carnegie family along with is incorrect “expert”.  This important public safety information has been delayed for over 2 years due to his lies in trying to rewrite what the evidence and eye witnesses clearly saw.   This was not only a miscarriage of justice to the family but put public safety at risk.


I recommend that all data, science and studies reviewed or authored by Dr. Paul Paquet shall be removed from the records of the wolf program and all his information shall be researched again by an independent source.  If this man cannot properly identify a bear or wolf track or even clearly review a mountain of evidence pointing to wolves, what other misinformation has he perpetuated on the current wolf science?

Jury at inquest to determine whether Ont. man killed by bear or wolf  

PRINCE ALBERT, Sask. — The jury at the inquest into the death of an Ontario man killed by wildlife will start deciding Thursday whether it was a bear or wolf that killed him.

The distinction is important to biology groups, the public and the family of 22-year-old Kenton Carnegie, said his father, Kim Carnegie, of Oshawa, Ont.

“We believe we had an obligation to the public to let them know how Kenton died,” he said after the third day of the inquest wrapped up Wednesday.

“How is Saskatchewan going to develop a wolf-human conflict plan if they believe a bear killed our son?”

Kenton Carnegie’s body was found Nov. 8, 2005, about a half kilometre from Points North Landing, a remote community about 120 kilometres northeast of the Key Lake mine and more than 750 kilometres northeast of Saskatoon.

The co-op student with the University of Waterloo was working with an Ontario geophysics company in northern Saskatchewan when he was killed.

The inquest heard from two experts on the issue of whether it was a bear or wolf that killed the young man.

Dr. Paul Paquet, a self-employed researcher with affiliations to universities across Canada, said it is his opinion that it was a bear that killed Carnegie.

He reviewed evidence, including interviews, autopsy reports and photographs taken at the scene, and wrote a report on his findings.

“The ultimate conclusion was that it was an attack by a large predator. We know that for certain,” he said.

Paquet said the evidence eliminated a grizzly bear or a cougar. He wouldn’t rule out a wolf, but suggested the feeding behaviour was consistent with a black bear.

Although a necropsy performed on two wolves that were killed revealed hair that was likely human in the animals’ colons, a DNA sample could not be gathered to definitively link it to Carnegie.

Paquet cautioned the hair could have been consumed at the dump. “The probability of the attack being that of a wolf is very, very low,” he said. “Documentation in North America is poor. I’m sure wolves have killed people before, we just have no documentation on it.”

Mark McNay, recently retired as head of the research department at the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, argued it was wolves that killed and partially consumed Carnegie.

He said bears most likely would have been in hibernation when Carnegie was killed (Paquet argued that male bears might have been out looking for food).

McNay said the people he interviewed had not seen a bear in the area for several weeks before Carnegie’s death and for months after.

In photographs of the site, what Paquet identified as bear tracks were actually wolf tracks, said McNay. The tracks were on the lake’s surface, which had not completely frozen over. When the wolf stepped into the ground and broke through to water, the water came up and made the track larger, leading people to believe it was bear tracks.

McNay said it was also unlikely that two wolves would have eaten the same hair from the dump on the same day Carnegie was killed.

As for the argument that wolves don’t attack humans, McNay said that is not the case anymore because wolves are becoming habitualized and losing their fear of people.

“These incidents of wolves and people, predictably, are going to increase,” he said.

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Days before Man was Killed by Wolves, Two Men were Attacked by the Wolves

Posted in Wolf Politics, Most Popular, Science Politics, Endangered Species Act (ESA), Animal Stories, Management Gone Wild on November 1st, 2007 by Wild

The latest inquiry in to the death of Kenton Carnegie’s by wolves has brought forth some very interesting information reported in the Fort Frances Times.

Just days before Kenton Carnegie’s death, Todd Svarckopf, a pilot for a geophysics company, said he nearly had been attacked by two wolves while he was outside checking on his plane.

“The wolves were very aggressive towards us,” the 37-year-old testified at the opening of an inquiry into Carnegie’s death. “They constantly snapped their teeth at us.” Svarckopf when on to testify on his near attack by the wolves that probably killed Kenton Carnegie a few days later. Svarckopf testified that days before Carnegie’s death, he and another co-worker were outside when two wolves circled them—trying to push the men into the woods. Then the wolves tried to separate the two and began advancing on them. The wolves came within an arm’s length, and when the men’s screams didn’t ward off the animals, Svarckopf said they started waving sticks. In this time, the men were able to take photos of the incident.

The encounter made Svarckopf afraid to walk by himself. When Carnegie told him that he was planning to take a walk, Svarckopf warned him against it.

“I definitely didn’t want to go for a walk after my experience,” said Svarckopf. “As a compromise, we played hockey.”

Yet so many will still deny that this large predator that works in a pack with hundreds of years of deadly wolf history documenting attacks by wolves on humans.

The wolf cultists revisionist history attempts to pretend that wolves do not attack people and all you have to do is wave your arms and the wolves will run away. Anyone that has stared down a dangerous dog will tell you how frightening the experience was. Now consider facing down a pack of wolves the larger kissing cousin to dogs? Yet the wolf cultist still say that wolves are scared of people and will not attack. These men found out the wolf cultists were wrong and history has proven cultists wrong and will again.

Wolves are large predators and they will attack. The more habituated the wolves are the more deadly a wolf attack as is likely as with other large predators. Now the wolf cultists say well tell me about any attacks in the lower 48 where a child was ever hurt and when you do they still deny it has happened even when the facts and records are shown to them.

The sad story goes on…

..days later, Carnegie informed his colleagues that he was going for a walk and that he’d be back by 5 p.m. When there was an empty chair at the dinner table, Svarckopf and another co-worker started a search.

Mark Eikel, assistant manager of Points North Landing, found Carnegie’s remains.

Carnegie’s tracks, he said, were covered by wolf tracks.

The six-person jury at the inquest will attempt to determine what killed Carnegie and make recommendations on how to prevent it from happening again.

More sad stories and devastated families will be added to the growing list as long as habituated predators like wolves are protected and humans are put at risk.

Personally I am devastated by Kenton Carnegie’s death, just as I am Sam Ives death, because both deaths were 100% preventable. The current illogical environmental policies and the current environmental propaganda with revisionist history (including from National Geographic) stating that wolves are not any danger to humans or children have led to many of these deaths and attacks were people (especially children) do not understand the dangers predators pose.

Why National Geographic wanted to twist the facts and elude to a bear killing Kenton during hibernation season for bears is suspect at best and fraudulent at worst.   National Geographic’s production of “Shadow Stalkers” and exclusion of the Carnegie family in their “documentary” shows their lack credibility, soullessness and desire to twist the facts.  Is National Geographic responsible for the next wolf attack on a human by providing misleading and deceptive information?

Claims that these attacks and killing are rare does not make their families feel any better. It is only rare when it does not happen to you.

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